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fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU check out that video. they have a perfected a system to create your own carbon fibre panel. especially creating the mold
you can still use the flange, just tape the bag around the flange towards the back of the mold, that way the bag doesn't sit on the free edge (where it would not seal and suck air in). you don't have to wrap the whole thing... also less slack on the bag is better
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Hey Chris try the tutorials from Easy Composites. Hope this helps. fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU fistream.info/work/videot/j7iagNnEdnu5230 fistream.info/work/videot/hpmtnK-nhpKlvqM
Please put the radar back on the boat, it is needed for fog, mist and when it's dark
Check out Easy cokmposites Uk, they have in-depth tutorials on how to build a carbon fibre bonnet or any other car panel for that matter.
use a heat gun to get rid of those air bubbles
Again check this out: youtube/dyj23IesF3s
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Mate! For Carbon Fiber duplicate best instruction is "fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU" "How to Make a Carbon Fiber Car Bonnet/Hood - Part 1/3" Please watch it! Love your work! Please keep going!!!
“Gonna get the dremel” *pulls out angle grinder*
does this process work with fiber glass as well? If I wanted to make a mold of my over fenders would it be the same process but replace everything with fiber glass?
Im not a coder should you use it as a mould
The LEDs did me dirty in that time laps
Loving the build ❤️
You can actually salvage your door by using super glue and baking powder. Seriously, no joke.
Yeah you skip too many steps there's tons of videos on FIstream that shows exactly how to do it just look at all of them and try to figure out how to combine them... still many props brother good luck
why didn't you use fiberglass its indeed more stronger, mush easy to cast, cheaper.... :) just a suggestion....
Completely bag your part, the only way you will pull the needed vacuum.
Your first coat in the mold is the carbon fiber then you can put just fiber glass after with tinted black resin. The back of the door can be made the same way. If your wrapping or painting the door just use fiberglass
The mold might still be usuable, just use a bigger plastic bag that can wrap around the entire mold or 2x the plastic bag you had and seal outside the mold. (Don't try to seal against the mold, seal the bag)
I hope you were using cheaper carbon fiber for the under layers and kept the show layer of carbon fiber a single layer? Also hope you were alternating the carbon fiber weave in your layers for added strength. Fantastic first semi second attempt. 😁
Cheap and free bracing for the fibreglass splashes (molds) you are making is the triangular cardboard packaging that comes with large fragile packages. Cut it to length and lay them in after the second layer of fibreglass cloth.
Crazy how people are working on making carbon fiber parts for super cars but can’t spend the time to learn the proper procedures on how to do it. The wax is to prevent mechanical locks, the vacuum is meant to prevent air bubbles. What you should have done after seeing the bubbles would have been to use a heat gun to get rid of them. Using an initial layer is also pointless.
Been reading some of the comments it's amazing how many professional people watch youtube it's amazing.
I've never tried Toro but would like to try. Some company that will remain nameless has so lost my business. I have pictures of before and after and they say I scratched bumper and guess what back one had scratches front one there was none and I have pictures showing at airport thise scratches there with a date and time. Fighting them now as they say I could fake them they dont want to see them.
Your mould need to be stiffer or otherwise the end product might have other dimensions. Then Vacuum resin infusion is the way to go!
oh man so much money spent. i can help you via whats app. add me on instagram @rodrigolagoa and i will send you my number. I´ve beeing there where you at right now and you are so damn close you can´t imagine how!! lets make this happen!
I don't if this might help or not but putting it out there: fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU
Hey, for whats its worth, I would love to have that door skin after your done with it. Cool garage art.
You take to much
Couldn't you use some kind of body filler, sand and use it as a painted piece?
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Trial and error bro learn by y’all mistakes just watch bro soon you won’t even realize how pro your going to be at this
Good luck if you got a fiber glass splinter on your hand without thick rubber gloves.
Ooooh, that blemish over the handle opening really bothers me!
Sort of a frustrating video, in that, it appears you guys did zero research on anything related to the task!
great job for the first time, protect your skin when cutting, that stuff is itching like he'll, I subscribed to your channel, I would recommend to sprinkle some fiberglass on the fresh not yet hardened gel coat, chemical bond is great , but mechanical and chemical is better , to stop your mold from flexing use a foam that is 1 cm thick in between the layers of fiberglass , fiber glast sells them , and cut your Matt's in advance you will loose less material , and its easyer to work if you are prepared , and there is a aluminum. roller that will help you roll out air bubbles. while applying resin , if I need my mold not to flex I cast it into solid concrete after its done, and I vibrate it very good to get it denser , it becomes super heavy to move, but if you add hooks into wet concrete , you can use a motor lifter for that
Can you use preprep
why dont you use videos from easy composites?? your mistakes are not learning mistakes, they are from trying to do things other way than are wrong...
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From what I've learnt the CF should go on dry (with just enough adhesive to lightly hold it in place). Then use an in-flow and out-flow to draw the resin across. There's a kind of mesh that goes on to keep the vacuum bag from laying completely flat as well.
I look in to making carbon fiber parts some time again and this guy give great info. This is his channel link m.fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU You may want to see a good way of making your parts and light as possible. This will save you a lot of time and frustration.
can you post links to all the products youre using in the description please?
Great video and thank for sharing! I truly appreciate the fact that you guys openly emphasized things that went wrong with the mold and part fabrication. That said, EZ Composites fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU has a great instructional video showing an awesome technique for making your flanges in addition to applying a wax or clay fillet that prevents the gelcoat from seeping beneath the part. Looking forward to your future videos on this Huracan build! Cheers...
You need to run a heat gun or blow torch over the resin to get the bubbles out
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Wait, I thought Carbon Fiber was some type of metal?
David Outlaw nope. Carbon fiber is a fiberglass-like composite that becomes rigid when impregnated with epoxy resin.
It seems the pva is reacting with the rasin might of been an idea to practice on a small flat squre to reduce waste then go onto actual pannels. Mate used to work at pro-drive in england they use a wax in their moulds that melts to release the pannel from the mould. They make all the aston martin carbonfiber as well as many ither manufacturers
Reaction is called fish eye
you wanna cross weave ur carbon
b is for boat
RIP homie SMH gone to soon
where's that yacht dude
Like with painting make sure that the fish eyes your getting isn't the personal products like hair spray shampoo and stuff like that it sounds stupid but that's why painters wear full over suits and plastic hats to cover there heads
How many parts on the car to clone?
Please uplode ur videos soon
Try this fistream.info/work/videot/hpmtnK-nhpKlvqM
FYI the guy from the You Tube channel The King Of Random died !!!
or as TJ would say KEEP MOVING FORWARD
Why not use a 3D printer? Another coincidence... a man who who's built a similar car by having 3D printed the body parts for a Lamborghini Aventador, and has a carbon fiber application technique. He's set a $20,000 (USD) budget. It'd be great to see his project merged with the strengths of the B is for Build frame and motor efforts. Here's the link: fistream.info/work/videot/qLuEjbK4jWK5z2g
New suscriptor, greetings from Argentina
Sorry a little off topic but does anyone know where of a reliable site to buy used engines? 2008 Honda Pilot
ask someone who knows how to shape and glass surfboards, you guys might get some ideas from them...
Resin infusion is required!
this was painful to watch, I studied and learned before I started to practice. Vacuum injected resin is one of the best ways to go. This was way too painful to watch and not a good way to go about it. very expensive mistake don't do what you did again try the vacuum injected resin way is much better. nice try though
high my name is justin are you still tryn to get rid of the bmw m5 shell
the mold turned out pretty good, continue making molds in pairs ....2 pieces at a time .to quarters, front fenders,bumpers,etc.
Chris, you may want to dive into the youtube fiberglass/carbon fiber deepend of videos. This one may help some: fistream.info/work/videot/mJeyqcvQeoCz35M
@bisforbuild, make key chains from the carbon door, sell on site.
You're going to find you want more edge than simple tape provides. I use coroplast, basically extra large signboard with about 3" all the way around and fill in those gaps with wax to prevent the gelcoat overlapping issue you saw. You want some fiber to overlap and extra room for taping the vacuum bag. Also you need to wet sand the mold down to 3k to prevent that resin issue you're seeing. A great vid altogether, just stuff to consider for next time
#stopdoingcarbonandgetonewiththebuild
Sweet video!
Hi it's me, kloveyoubye, back to rendering this thing. xD
where is the boat build
you should use prepeg you will make your life way easier right deduction for the vacuum bag
After watching your video FIstream put a video in my stream about making carbon fiber car parts. I am sure you have seen it already but just incase you haven’t here it is. Please let me know if this is not ok and I will delete the post. fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU
This is the first time I have seen him do work to this vehicle without his engineer
Here's another supplier of the technique and materials base in U.S. that maybe helpful. Airtech @ huntington beach usa www.airtechintl.com. fistream.info/work/videot/p9GCetmrf2WQ2Wg fistream.info/work/videot/sKhxbLKxpGnVvZs fistream.info/work/videot/rZmbqNK6m5bamJc
I know this video is long but check it out, might give you some ideas on how to move forward with the molds. fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU
Hi Chris, I am really impressed you are giving this a go.... it is my dream do do a whole car in carbon! Easy composites have been the best tutorials I have found so far. There are so many bits that they suggest which you didnt do. Watch their 3 part of how to build a carbon fibre hood. They really did the process well.
Where’s the boat 🚤🚤🚤🚤
Call the Street Banditos, Tim knows his shit when it comes to carbon.
proper gelcoat gun would mix the gelcoat and hardener in the air before it fits the surface....
Lookin good man, love watching this progress. Hopefully the new vacuum sorts out all your woes haha
You got pretty close!!
If the carbon fiber is this hard to shape, I'd go with aftermarket fiberglass bumpers from FGP-Stuff on the car to save some time in the rebuild. They're a hell of a lot cheaper than name brand ones. Samcrac used them and they look great. Also if you wanna compete with Cleetus and Ruby, I'd use the titanium aftermarket exhaust. That shaves a good amount of weight off the back. Unless you have to make a custom exhaust to fit because of the LS engine.
Chris have a look at this series for your carbon Fiber body parts. This is part 1 of 3 fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU
Instead of pulling vacuum on already impregnated material, why not pull the vacuum at corner futher away and pull resin in from opposite corner, only thing is you nee to lay some runners.
Wow, $2500 down the pan.
Did you buy an autoclave???
Stop with the vacuum bags make a ply wood sealed chamber with rubber sealed door , you can reuse it for ever
I want more boat videos
I admire your spirit but I work with carbon fibre and can tell you there are so many pitfalls with what you are trying, it will take you months of practice to reliably create and use moulds to a high standard. Gotta be worth bringing in an expert to take care of all the bodywork and leave you to concentrate on the huge amount of remaining work?
Good job i watch u all the time
Can't eat to see the next one u do
fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU try to watch this. hope to help building this burntacan. Im your no. 1 fan here in philippines
Hey Guys, using the brushing method is introducing bubbles/voids. Need to find a way to spray.. is thinner an option? -NASA cert Conformal Coat Inspector
Do it with resin infusion tehnic
With Twill is very hard to get good resoults
Wet layup is wery hard it works the best on the plain weave
Check a channel called Sail Life. Guy off that used vacuum infusion to build a new rudder from a mould.
Someone help him do it cause in a minute his really going to be broke
don't know if you saw this one: fistream.info/work/videot/i8iDr6XcZXaZlXU it's a UK company, the process is a bit different, but I like the way he does the vacuum
I'm an engineer in aerospace and work for a large aerospace space company in composites. One of the things I noticed is your vacuum bagging. One of the things we use is called tacky tape (at work we refer to it as dum dum) similar to this - tacky-tape.com/products/vacuum-bags/sm5142/ it looks like sticky tack you use to hang things on the wall or whatever, but it comes out in a nice strip and you can get a good seal. Another thing I noticed is on your radius for the door. You definitely have to work the fabric in to the radius to make sure your bag will have a chance. The vac won't magically suck it down in to the radius unfortunately. That's where we see wrinkles and voids most commonly. We also use pre-preg, but your method should work as well. If you have other fabrication questions feel free to ask, my wife and i love your show and our 2 year old daughter does as well!
Can you not just clear coat and then polish the carbon fibre and by that eliminating the creases?